To better understand the how and what of water kefir, let’s take a closer look at some facts about this fizzy fermented drink.
It was an immediate geyser of water kefir. the grains are black. To me, that was a good indication that the first ferment yielded very happy water kefir.
And by new, I mean post-Mason jar era. Can I do the second ferment in a Fido jar with a seal?
. HELP, am I missing something nutritionally by not using the fido-jars???????? .
So I guess that climate or sugars or ferment location could also have an effect. . I too have the geyser effect on my finished beverage serving! Thanks for stopping by! Leave me a comment below! If it’s a veggie ferment, I just switch the lid when it’s done with a Fido lid. I never have more than 5 ferments going at once, so when that ferment is done, I simply switch the Probiotic Jar lid with the standard Fido lid and store it.
It is so helpful to be able to benefit from the experience of others .
For background information on water kefir, why it’s awesome, and a basic how-to and recipe, please check out my post, Water, Water, Everywhere, and Lots of Drops to Drink.I did, however, want to write an updated post about my new experiences with water kefir.
Blood sugar control. | The content on this site is copyright of Jessica Espinoza and Delicious Obsessions® LLC and no part of any article or image found on this site is allowed without express, written permission from the author(s). The following evening (24 hours from the start of the kefir), I decided it was ready to be bottled for the second ferment. This was a personal choice for me, based on the research I was presented with and it did create quite a bit of controversy.
So glad the info was helpful! One is not really better than the other. Wow! I just noticed recently that people were brewing with a cloth or coffee filter, and I thought, that’s odd. I’m in Ft Collins, too, and am lookimg for someone to barter with. I’d recommend tossing them and starting with fresh, healthy grains.
I have only ever made it in glass jars. Am looking for water kefir grains, and I have organic MKG and kombucha scoby for the trade. You should just try to brew smaller batches if you’re not able to drink it all in time. He usually opens it up with a pan under it and a pint sized mason jar on the top. Do you know if there is a health benefit to kefir vs kombucha? I’ve never figured out the exact reason why that happens. | Website design and development by, Water, Water, Everywhere, and Lots of Drops to Drink, Fermenting Methods: We’ve Had it All Wrong, Lydia over at Divine Health From The Inside Out put together a Water Kefir Troubleshooting post, 52 Weeks of Bad A** Bacteria Fermenting Series. Hi Carla – I purchase mine from The Probiotic Jar site: https://www.deliciousobsessions.com/Probiotic-Jar. Hi Laurel – Yes, the Fido jars have a rubber seal. I was told not to seal the jar, as the ferment needed to breath. I do know a lot of people who just skim off the mold and eat the ferment (which I used to do too), but with my precarious gut health, I am avoiding it for now. I am so happy I found this today. It was nice and fizzy but tasted a bit yeasty. Another WK question… why aren’t my water kefir grains ‘growing’ like my milk kefir grains do? You can do a second ferment in whatever jars you would like.
Not a silly question at all! The second ferment really only needs to go 12-24 hours, especially in the summer. It may also not get quite as fizzy as the individual flip-top bottles.
How do you brew your water kefir? But, let me tell you — I have never, ever had water kefir that was so fizzy and I have been using my flip-top bottles for a long time. If so, can this be If you have questions about water kefir, check out my Water Kefir FAQs. It just needs a few more batches or so, don’t panic yet.
1/4 cup brown sugar Great post. I also received a few jars as gifts. I hope this helps! It was so great to read your article about water kefir and found more information about it. It was mild, super fizzy, and uber refreshing, especially since Denver has been on a heat wave streak with 100+ degree weather. Let me get this straight. thanks. P.S. It really does add up after just 1 week of batches. An ice cold glass of water kefir will satisfy your thirst and give your belly love! Strain into fliptop bottles -ferment 48 more hours in same warm & dark place (flavored w/ watever I feel like) Sandor Katz addresses this very question in an article and YouTube video: http://www.wildfermentation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3654, The Pickl-It site has a great article on botulism that may be of help too: http://www.pickl-it.com/blog/342/what-about-botulism/.
You just slip the wire holder off the lid and then insert a different one.
The way I was taught to brew water kefir was to use a Mason jar with a coffee filter, a tea towel, or a very loose lid over the top. All rights reserved. They are the same type of jars, except the Probiotic Jars come with an airlock and hole drilled into the lid (not something I am going to attempt to do, so I will be going airlock-free for now).
When you fermented water kefir in a mason jar were you using a plastic lid or a two-piece lid with the rubber sealing compound? I have been Dear Trusty Mason Jar,
You don’t want to brew or bottle in plastic, but I really don’t see a problem using plastic for bottling purposes! Have fun experimenting with flavors! An entire book on fermentation, by an ‘expert’ and it’s not accurate. Hi Ruth – That does not sound good at all. So, that sealed the deal for me. Glad you found me! You could also try using a different water source. . From that point on, I have been brewing my water kefir in my Fido-style canning jars and have never had better tasting, super bubbly water kefir. I started out by heating all of the water and then just letting it cool back to room temp. About a year ago, I wrote about water kefir, so I’m not going to go into a lot of detail about what it is.
Maybe with just a small change, capping my first ferment, I will improve my kefir!
Also, my friend Lydia over at Divine Health From The Inside Out put together a Water Kefir Troubleshooting post, that might be helpful to new brewers and experienced brewers alike! The information on this website is intended for informational and educational purposes only and has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
Hi June – Yes, you can do the second ferment in a Fido, just be very careful to not let it go too long and build up too much pressure. Hope that helps! Wow, I am so thankful for this post! Hi Jung – I personally have stopped consuming ferments that have molded, as I am working on healing my gut and am trying to eliminate anything that could upset my protocols.
In 2015, a small study compared the effects of consuming kefir … What do you suggest I do with my WK while I am waiting on getting the correct equipment?
If so, there is a GREAT fermenting group that I highly recommend here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/CounterCultures/.
. I just had to recoup my grains and I am so excited to try this out. But, they do absorb the bacteria in the environment they are in, so they could be reacting with your kitchen. So, tell me. This is my tutorial on how to make water kefir: https://www.deliciousobsessions.com/2012/07/52-weeks-of-bad-a-bacteria-week-26-how-to-make-water-kefir/.
I was so excited that I didnt have to buy anything new right away as I use the jars to keep my beans etc in.
I got my wk from friend of mine who seemed have no time in brewing it. Water kefir is a sweet cultured drink after the first ferment, and you just can’t avoid that. Thanks. I have done second ferments in mason jars, old kombucha bottles, etc., but the WK is never fizzy enough for my liking. I typically don’t switch jars when done, as that introduces too much oxygen to the ferment, but in the case of milk kefirs, you will need to strain off the grains, so switching jars is fine. Confused about to cap or not o cap, The recipe I use: brewing water kefir for several weeks & the last Do you want to start making your own water kefir at home? I don’t expect people to go out and drop a lot of money on new jars. I found it ok. What actually the ratio of good wk brewing?
Hi Bee – You can use fidos for coconut milk kefir, as that tends to be a really fast ferment.
I love when it’s super fizzy, even if it does mean a geyser effect! Some kefir experts recommend only drinking a tablespoon or two at a time and then working yourself up to a full time, especially if you’re not used to kerif or strong probiotics. It could be that there was a manufacturer defect in the jars that have exploded. Now you can make allergy-friendly treats the whole family will love! Yet I use the coffee filter method.
:):), Thanks for sharing hour experience! I have not personally had that happen, but if you’re seeing black, I would think the grains are dead and have maybe gone bad. My thoughts are with all of the residents of that area and other areas where the fires are happening in CO. Last report I heard this morning, there were 12 fires happening across the state. I now have this on the 2nd ferment to flavor. Yours Truly, Hi Ginny!
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These comments were verrrrrrrrry interesting…
I find that if the ferment goes too long, it gets yeasty tasting.
This way you can keep your anaerobic lids available for new ferments once the current one is done and ready to be moved to cold storage.
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. Jessica, Cause I heard you’re not suppose to use plastic?! According to the research that I discussed in my post, Fermenting Methods: We’ve Had it All Wrong, where I shared the information that KerryAnn from Cooking Traditional Foods had been putting out, one of the things we covered was that kefir, both milk and water, need to be anaerobic ferments.
Lastly, when resting the grains in the fridge, do u still use a fido, or is a sealed Mason jar ok? Hi again, are you still using fido jars or have you started using pick-liit yet?
Nothing against Sandor, but I think we’ve been far too flippant with our ferments and it’s time to set it all straight – one post, one ferment at a time!
Hi Mimi – I say do the best with what you can. I try not to use plastic for anything food related and I have been told by some fermenting gurus that we should not use plastic for fermenting.
It sounds like your kefir grains are super happy!
From where water kefir grains come from to how water kefir is made to what exactly is in that final bottle of water kefir, there are many misconceptions when it comes to the probiotic drink known as water kefir. Do you think the yeasty flavor comes from the newness of the grains or is it that I bake a lot & this is just the nature of my kitchen? You probably need to try a shorter brew time.
About a year ago, I wrote about water kefir, so I’m not going to go into a lot of detail about what it is. I discuss why I chose to switch to an anaerobic method in this post: https://www.deliciousobsessions.com/2012/05/52-weeks-of-bad-a-bacteria-week-18-fermenting-methods-weve-had-it-all-wrong/. I just started making water kefir a couple of days ago using the method that is described on most sites (coffee filter over mason jar).
Then I started getting impatient, so I would just heat a tiny bit of water, dissolve the sugar, and then fill the rest with cold water to cool it all down so I could get things going faster. , Hi Ginny, That keeps my fermenting lids open and available for my next ferment. I am hopeful that this post solves my problems for me! Don't miss out any longer with my FREE Deliciously Decadent Desserts eBook! http://www.amazon.com/Pickle-Pro-vegetable-Fermenting-Lid-Pack/dp/B007Z0YF2W. I have about 5 of the Probiotic jars, but then have about 20 Fidos. I have been trying to get a good, and reliable, ferment going with my grains, and have not had the success that I have been hoping for. Just started to hydrate some water kefir grains.
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